Hebrews 10.1-2 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make those who approach perfect. For then would they not have stopped being offered? because that the worshipers, once purged, should have had no more conscience of sins.

**question: At what point do you get to have no more conscience of sins?


9 Responses to “substance and shadow”  

  1. 1 g-rock

    “At what point do you get to have no more conscience of sins? ”

    when you realize that you are truly free…

    when you learn to just get out and dance, and not stand around staring at your feet…

    religion wants you to focus on YOUR efforts, morality, etc… all in the name of “pleasing God”…

    God wants you to focus on Him… everything else will come as an afterthought…

  2. 2 beef

    You will never see the things of God until you get above the fog of this earth. If you come down into the self-life, then it is frustration. If you touch the world’s life it is frustration, and you will never see the things of God until you get above this world in spirit. When in the Spirit, you are on a great, high mountain, and then you see something. You are separated from the world. Don’t climb back down the mountain to the world, there is no glory there.

  3. 3 Glen Galaxy

    Ah yes this is true..! But look at that little “once purged” part in the verse quoted above. What does that say to you & me?

  4. 4 beef

    lol, my bad bro :) sometimes it just jumps out.

  5. 5 Glen Galaxy

    The “once purged” is the turning point of all history. At the point where the blood of Jesus was shed and the new covenant was established, every single man alive was welcomed into a life where there is no conscience of sin. So, as a worshiper in the new covenant, you are purged once. And then you have no conscience of sin. That’s radically different from a system where you’re in the process of reconciliation.

    What does it really mean to have no conscience of sin?

  6. 6 pamelah walker

    So does this mean that, once purged, remaining in this new life (a place of a conscience free of sin), you keep yourself with the ability that GOD has given? (Romans 6, 8; 1 Jn. 5:18 and Jude 20)

  7. 7 pamelah walker

    The message I hear is all about this, and I am partly trying to put together the pieces…thanks!

  8. 8 Glen Galaxy

    All of those are amazing passages on being born of God and “keeping yourself.” Our consciences are to be sanctuaries. Our bodies are the temple of God where the Holy Ghost dwells.

    There is incredible discernment available in God by which we come to understand the difference between what is in the world and what is in us. Fleshly lusts are part of the world system, but they do not belong in our lives. If at any point our consciences become defiled in any way…there is a quick and powerful solution!

  9. 9 Glen Galaxy

    We have the opportunity to be incredibly honest with ourselves here. If our prayers of confession function the same way the old testament ritual sacrifices did, it’s time the word get out on how whoppingly different the new covenant is.

    We don’t need to live getting by from temporary cover-up to temporary cover-up. The fact that we are once purged and by that given no conscience of sin is as cataclysmically new as the resurrection itself. I have about 50 verses I’d like to start listing, but it’s almost better to just leave it at this:

    *Start asking Father to reveal to you exactly what living with no conscience of sin really means..* That’s a prayer he’s so ready to invade with life-changing answers.