new wine into new bottles
Matthew 9.16-17 No man puts a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up takes from the garment, and the tear is made worse. Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runs out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.
Romans 7.6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
2 Corinthians 5.17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
There is to be no mixing of the new and the old covenants. The new covenant is all new, and it’s all in Christ and of the Spirit!
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“There is to be no mixing of the new and the old covenants.”
I was just thinking about how it’s hard for someone who doesn’t know God to know that they’re actually dead because that’s all they know. But in some ways it’s even harder for someone who’s known God to know that they’ve gone dead again, because a little part of them still truley understands how vast a difference there is between God’s life and anything else. No one wants to admit they’re on the wrong side of that vast difference but you have to to get close to God again. You have to see that you’re old covenant to be made into new covenant.
that’s why the light in us needs to be so pure and exposed. if all people know and have ever known are shades of gray, no one has any real reference point for understanding how beautiful the light of the gospel is.
it’s sooo important to keep it simple and straightforward. in Christ = new creation = new covenant.
i’ve seen people get hopelessly dizzy in pointless “am i dead or alive” or “which part of me is saved” questions. Jesus is always answering us with “you’re in me, & i’m 100% alive and 100% saved.” there’s really not too much point trying to engage God in a discussion on the limits of repentance. he purposefully leaves it at clear reassurance for those who are genuine about repentance, and ominous warnings for those who really aren’t.
it’s funny how people ask the question from the gray side of things when their hearts are growing numb to God. you’re looking at it from the point of view of absolute honesty before God, which is where you get real answers >>
“there’s really not too much point trying to engage God in a discussion on the limits of repentance.”
You’re right. I do that all the time. It’s rediculous.
I haven’t been good at memorizing Ephesians, so I’m retyping the whole thing and paraphrasing the sentences that are long and (for lack of a better word) circley. It’s fun to have a Bible reading project, rather than just reading. I read through too fast.
you learn a lot about your own understanding process doing that* i’ve tried all sorts of abbreviation & outline & repetition tricks; it’s all a bit of a game to get your brain out of the “OK, i already get this” mode. because there’s layers and layers and layers forever - and it’s so worth getting past what your brain’s already decided it means >>
Was wondering what you thought about Luke 5:39 where Jesus adds “No man also having drunk old wine straightway desires new: for he says, The old is better.” The more I think about all of this, the more I realize is in here, like you said “layers”.
Also, as I was reading the above posts, something reminded me of 2 Cor 3:7-11=> Old vs. New
“Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses’ face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.”
yeah, good point with luke 5.39
it’s really true, & it’s demonstrated all through the new testament. i think it’s very safe to read “old wine” as man’s religion & tradition (that makes void the word of God) - it’s basically what Jesus is warning against when he says “beware the leaven of the Pharisees…” fermentation, corruption, leaven - they all pretty much get dealt with the same way in the Bible.
so is old wine better than new wine? no, Jesus is only stating that people used to old wine prefer old wine. why would people prefer it? there are so many verses about this…but it all comes down to a cozy but deadly drunken stupor. which none of us is immune to - which is why Jesus makes his warning so clear.
& yes, 2 Corinthians 3 (all the way to the end of the chapter) is the key to keeping your wine new >>
Yes - layers… long ago 1 Cor. 9:9-10 (don’t muzzle the ox while treading the grain - surely he says this for us; yes surely!) exposed to me in a profound way the connection between the old and new. God has not changed and neither has his heart for his people - all of scripture reveals His consistent character. But yes, he is doing “new thing” and has made a way in the wilderness (Is. 43:19).
But don’t you think His people have; so therefore the way he deals with His people has changed? Holy Spirit dwells within rather than coming upon, the curtain is torn. It’s not 10% it’s all.
And what do you think about suffering in this new thing, in regards to purity?
It’s a crazy/scary/awesome/refreshing thing is how God often uses pain/dispare/overwhelm-ment to reveal the next layer — deep calls to deep (Ps. 42:7). The blister cries out beneath the uncomfortable work — pretty soon the old dries up and if you stop to look at the state of your hands you can’t wait to rip off the dead flap. And there it is, the new/better life.
well, in terms of the suffering part - Jesus suffered being tempted. so we know that suffering isn’t supposed to remove sin (or the “old man”), it’s actually a part of the divine nature we get to share in right now. 1 peter 4.1 gives an amazing insight into this. Jesus came armed with a willingness to suffer in the flesh.
we’re actually told that he that suffers in the flesh is finished with sin - he won’t live the rest of his life for the lusts of men but for the will of God. Jesus is the perfect picture of a life lived like this. and he lived that way consistently before his ultimate suffering on the cross.
see what i mean? the blood deals completely with the “old man of sin.” the willingness to suffer is our armor in terms of living uncompromised lives that offensively destroy the works of the devil in a compromised world. light shines in the darkness and the darkness may persecute it all the way to the point of death; but darkness can never overcome it.